Melania Opens Up About Her Faith

After Melania Trump met with Pope Francis in the Vatican Wednesday, her spokeswoman confirmed that the First Lady is indeed a Roman Catholic, the first to occupy her post since Jackie Kennedy.

The last time the United States had a Catholic as First Lady was during the presidency of John F. Kennedy, whose wife Jackie Kennedy—like him—was a Roman Catholic. When Melania moves into the White House together with their son Barron this summer, she will become the first Catholic occupant of the White House since the Kennedy era.

On meeting the Pope Wednesday, Melania asked him to bless her rosary and later visited the Bambin Gesù (Baby Jesus) pediatric hospital, where she met with young patients and their families, prayed in a chapel and laid flowers at the feet of a statue of the Virgin Mary.

Later that day, the First Lady’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham confirmed to that Melania is a practicing Catholic.

Having grown up in Slovenia, then part of the Communist and officially atheist Soviet bloc, it is unclear when Melania was baptized a Catholic. President Trump is a life-long Presbyterian, and he and Melania were married in a Palm Beach Florida Episcopal church.

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      1. Rex Whitmer

        After the Constitution was officially approved, Ben Franklin made the statement to the effect that it could only have been made by Christians, and It would fail if the nation lost its Christianity! I believe that between the ACLU and Obama it’s already floundering!

  1. jjmcl431

    the MSM treat her being a Catholic as if that will be the down fall of our country. to bad they didn’t feel the same way about that Muslim traitor named Obama.

    1. Jan

      Back then it was much more acceptable to be a Christian of any denomination. Now they are treated like pariahs.

  2. bobussery

    Christians are all ‘catholic’…there is a universal body of believers, no denomination or ‘faith’ personifies this reality. Christians are everywhere within Christianity…time to re-think how we teach the truths of Christ.

    1. mallen11

      Most catholics are NOT Christians since most do not even know how to be saved and have no idea about what the Bible teaches but rather thrive on ritual without reality.

      1. JCWS1

        As a lifelong Catholic myself, I can tell you that you are ASSuming quite a lot. Your BS meter is registering an overflow.

        1. mallen11

          You have been misled by a religion instead of Christianity found in God’s Word and not manmade rituals that are not even in the Bible. Take time to study for yourself and stop believing false RCC doctrines.

          1. Rex Whitmer

            True, Dorothy, but everyone has the right to believe their own way of belief. We don’t know your religion, but I would wager that a good Catholic Priest could if he wanted to, show you errors in YOUR belief! I do not believe as Catholics, but I believe that God respects them as much as HE respect YOU!

          2. mallen11

            God does not respect man; man is to respect God. God only responds to the truth of His written Word, the mind of Christ (1 Cor 2:16) not a man-made religion of rituals without reality. I pray that you know Jesus Christ as your savior by faith alone telling God the Father that you believe in Jesus Christ. Nothing else works for salvation. (Eph 2:8-9)

          3. Rex Whitmer

            You have Mallen11,gotten this directly from God? Perhaps you have a badly translated scripture? Whatever religion you claim allegiance to, seems a bit perverse as it is not very Christ like at least from your comments?

          4. mallen11

            God gives man information in His written Word on how to live the Christian way of life and when “man” decides to write their own beliefs to suit their way then they get off track and follow the way of the cosmic system of Satan. I don’t have a religion since religion is the Devil’s ace trump and Christianity is a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. If you can’t understand this then you may not know Christ as your savior. My belief is from the Word of God; not what man dictates to try to make approbation to please God. God’s grace gives and we receive and our goal in life is to glorify Jesus Christ; not some church or statue or piece of jewelry or ritual or dressing up in some robe that is not sacred or spiritual. It is not in His written Word; it is man’s ideas and not God’s. Our pastor teaches directly from the original languages of Hebrew and Greek and that is the way we are to understand the purest form of Bible Doctrine. it is important that we get our information directly from God through His written Word; not what some person tells you what to believe but what does the Bible say. You may want to check out God’s Word for yourself but first you must be under the power of the Holy Spirit or you won’t understand and will only have academic knowledge but no spiritual knowledge.

            1 Cor 2:13-16 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

            But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

            But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

      2. Norma Jean DeForest

        WHAT?? I am a devout Catholic and resent your comment. Better do some research malleln11 or whatever your name is.

        1. mallen11

          I have made an extensive study of your “religion” and find it wanting. You have been mislead to believe in ritual instead of Biblical truths. No need to resent; study the Word of God for yourself and see that your rituals are NOT found in the Word of God. We no longer live in OT times but the NT times of the Church Age that includes the Epistles too.

          1. Rex Whitmer

            Obviously Mallen 11, your study was slanted! Catholics, were they of a mind to, could prove whatever belief you have as being wrong by his belief and interpretation!

          2. mallen11

            I doubt that very much since my belief is based solely on God’s Word and not a man-made belief that suits man rather than God.

      3. Rex Whitmer

        Catholics ARE Christians. You are free to posture your belief as YOU see fit, but the BIBLE you worship from was brought to you by Catholics. I definitely am not Catholic, but I do respect them and believe they have the right to worship as THEY believe correct, and by the same token, I believe you have the right to worship as YOU see fit! That’s what makes Christianity the wonder that it is!

    2. SED

      I agree. Christianity is Gods attempt to reach man. Religion is mans attempt to reach God. The Bible states that through no works of man can you reach the Kingdom of God but only through the gift of grace.

    3. Rex Whitmer

      I wouldn’t go that far bobussery. Christians we all worship our individual concepts of our GOD. While practices differ and different congregations interpret things differently, we do all use the same doctrine, however we interpret it. Our God tells us to love all mankind, which is a tenet we all accept. We all accept that he came among us and loved us, a very great difference from Allah! I would also greatly appreciate it if biblical interpreters would refrain from calling our GOD Allah! The Muslims hold that the name simply means “the god” but we Christians know differently. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME GOD!

  3. scorpian

    First Lady Trump is a quality Lady and if she’s Catholic so be it. She’s christian and not responsible for the conduct of their sick priests and the Popes tolerates these sick bastards. Sure a hell of lot better than Obama who’s part of the Muslim brotherhood. Obama is a traitor and the Feds should hold him accountable for his crimes against the United States.

      1. Perdido

        There are BILLIONS of Catholics.
        Statistically speaking, there are few perverts in the Church than there are walking around the campus of any secular US university.
        Practicing Catholics are wonderful, giving people.

  4. SweetLadyMary

    From her statement regarding where they attend church, it is an Episcopal Church, which some people refer to as English Catholic. It is not part of the Roman Catholic Church as it is not in communion with Rome. “There are two official names of the Episcopal Church specified in its constitution: The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America (PECUSA) and The Episcopal Church (TEC).”

  5. ADRoberts

    What a shame. The Catholic church is near death. A pope who is more secular than most politicians and who embraces muslims. No John Paul for sure.
    Yes the Catholics are dead spiritually. Just ask the people of Venezuela who almost 20 years ago, rejected that sorry excuse for all the abuse of people and power. And what are they getting from the RICH vatican when they are starving? NOTHING.

    1. Perdido

      Hm. So which is it? Near death or RICH?
      Let the hate pass from you. The Catholic Faith is still the most populous of all on earth.

      1. ADRoberts

        I guess you don’t have a brain. Read the Bible some time. The place where it talks about those who think they are rich and are truly impoverished.
        Yes, you are a Catholic. You have the FORM of godliness and no power.
        II Timothy 3:5-7. Now since you are so arrogant, I will ask you to determine what John was saying in Revelation about the seventh and last church, Laodicea. Let me guess. You don’t read the Bible. And you don’t know.
        So there is only one last question that will PROVE that you are worthless to God. John 14:12, is where Jesus tells HIS FOLLOWERS what they WILL do.
        Read it. It says. “…..WILL do the same things I have been doing, because I am going to the Father.” Now IF you knew the Bible, you would know that “going to the Father,” referred to the promise of SENDING THE HOLY SPIRIT back to His FOLLOWERS so they can obey Acts 1;8.
        IF you have not died to yourself. the HOly Spirit WON’T come (Parable of Two Masters) And if the Holy Spirit has not come, you can’t perform miracles. And IF you can’t perform miracles, you are NOT one of His followers.
        God have mercy on you.

        1. Perdido

          “Thou are Peter and upon this Rock I shall build my church.”
          Hate not, God sent his only begotten Son to save you from your sin.
          (And, btw, I don’t take on assignments from Philistines on the internet.)

          1. mallen11

            Ps 118:22 The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone. Peter never went to Rome; Paul did. Where in the Bible is the proof that Peter went to Rome? Mt 16:18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon THIS ROCK I will build MY church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. Peter’s original name was Cephus and means: little stone and Barjonah means: Bar = son, Jonah = his father’s name in the Aramaic. Little Stone Son of Jonah into Greek is Petros, a little stone in a group of bigger stones. Peter, and on THIS ROCK Petra is what Peter SAID, not about Peter himself. Petra is a gigantic rock made up of a lot of little stones. We are little stones in the gigantic rock, the Royal Family of God; The Church: not a building but all believers of this age.
            Oikodomeo – to build on the ROCK Christ Jesus, not a stone or any human including Peter
            The RCC does not follow what the Bible teaches but teaches their own religion.

          2. mallen11

            That never has been proven. Paul went to Rome and he wrote about it and was beheaded for the sake of Christ. Peter’s mission was to the Jews and Paul’s to the Gentiles. This is Biblical proof not made up by man’s false religion.

          3. mallen11

            Don’t waste your time; there is no proof only RCC lies to keep their people enslaved to their man-made religion to suit their wealth. Their focus is their “church” not the Lord Jesus Christ.

          4. ADRoberts

            You are the Philistine. You have not answered a single thing I have said. You can’t because you are basically ignorant of the Bible and only go by what someone else tells you to believe.
            You say you don’t take assignments. I did not assign you anything. lBut I did challenge you on much of your thinking. But instead of hearing and considering, you have essentionally said that you have locked yourself in your dead end and refuse to hear reason.
            Truly, the verse applies to you. “Ephraim is joined to his idols…..”
            I can prove you are not a follower of Jesus. John 14:12. You don’t live there.

          5. Rex Whitmer

            There are other people whom do not understand the Bible. Some have read and studied and still don’t understand all they’re reading. Those whom claim to be so wise might re-examine their superior wisdom?

          6. ADRoberts

            True. But then there are TWO things that bear witness.
            1. The testimony of those who believe. That it is sound and in line with the doctrines of the Bible
            2. As Per John 14:12, the “evidence of the miracles themselves.” You see I and other HAVE prayed and God has answered with miracles. I could tell you the details, but you would likely discount them and try to explain them away.
            This IS evidence of a follower of Jesus. And God bears witness by continuing to bless me.
            Jesus is Lord.

          7. ADRoberts

            How would you know a Philistine? You certainly do not have any criterion except whether a person agrees with you are not. And if they disagree, according to you, in your arrogance, they MUST be a Philistine. Now consider this. Somewhere it says that men could be entertaining angels, unaware. You would not have a clue, because you are soooo CERTAIN that you are right.

          8. Rex Whitmer

            You HAVE entertained Angels??? Abraham couldn’t tell them from ordinary men.

          9. ADRoberts

            This time I will not do the research for you. It is there. Verses that say that in their service, men have entertained angels. I want to challenge you to find it. But I have NO doubt you won’t even try.
            However, IF you come back and tell me that you did try and could not find it, I WILL find it for you.
            I don’t believe in you.
            Does God believe in you?
            Jesus is Lord.
            Oh, and Abraham DID know they were from God.

          10. ADRoberts

            So I read it again. And I find that from the VERY INSTANT he saw them, he acted in a way that indicated that he KNEW who they were. I guess you won’t agree. What do you think. Did he bow down low to ALL those who came to visit him?
            This is called discernment. And I have discerned from the little I have read of your posts that you are likely trying to be fair and treat people with deference and allow them some leeway. That may be good. But I am an exhorter. And I do not usually have that luxury.
            Know this. Innocent as lambs. Wise as serpents. Right now, across America we have people who, in their blindness, believe that they, as Christians, MUST eagerly bring in the very evil men who will take Christianity down.
            They honestly believe that THAT is being a Christian. Do you think that is wisdom from God? I don’t. i think that is the deception of those who are “having the form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.”.
            Will they survive their actions? Probably not.
            Will it matter. That is up to how God judges them.
            The question is, Did they hear God when He was talking to them, and did them obey.
            Interesting story of a missionary sailing to China in the 19th century. God told him to get off the boat in Hawaii. The boat sailed on, it a typhoon and all were lost. On returning to the USA, he told the story of how God had saved him. A self-righteous woman contest him saying that she did not believer that God would warn him and let the others all die. The Missionary said, “I don’t believe that God warned only me. I was just the only one listening.”
            So how many people do you know who actually LISTEN and HEAR God?

          11. Rex Whitmer

            As a matter of fact at least in those days they did. Visitors were few and very welcome. Now may I ask whom called you to be an exhorter? Was it a self serving post, by that I mean did you read scripture and just feel you wanted to exhort? Or perhaps there was a vision or an angelic being whom called you? I would not doubt you if you said yes, but that then would be between you and your conscience. I would never doubt a person telling me anything, because I do know that such things do happen. However when I read scripture, and to me the Old Testament is as much scripture as the New, then I read as much history as I can of the time and customs of that day, and get a perspective as best I can of what living there at that time was like. Abraham assuredly knew God, but Angels are a different matter. By the way, there is no recorded history ever of a female angel! That gets to me at times. In the choir that made the shepherds aware of Christ’s birth, I suppose there might have been some sopranos or Alto there, but we have no record of it.

          12. ADRoberts

            Actually I belong to the Church of the Nazarene. We believe in the filling of the Holy Spirit and the GIFTS of the Spirit listed in the Bible. And someone went to the trouble of researching the characteristics of people who were known to have a particular gift. They then made a test, asking what you would rather do between two possible choices. From the responses they can tell you what your Gift is. My gifts are Exhortation and Giving.
            You can find such tests if you want to know what your natural gift is.
            As to angels. I think that if you recall Jesus said that there will be no marriage in heaven. That is because there is NO sex in heaven. There is no need to procreate and the pleasure that we as humans have in it would no longer be needed or even wanted. There it will all be different. As far as I can tell, it will be in the spiritual dimension.
            Now I will exhort you. Please stop reading history. Go out and find someone you know does not have Jesus in their heart. Pray for them first. Then share the Gospel and lead them to Christ. THAT is worth your time and effort. Then let God lead them and only give advise as how to GROW IN CHRIST.

            Jesus is Lord.

        2. Rex Whitmer

          You can thank the Catholics that the book of Revelations was even included in the BIBLE! Think about it! Without their put in, you wouldn’t even know about the Book of Revelations!!!

          1. ADRoberts

            History does not get you into heaven. I can point out the verse that warn that a person can do great things and NOT get into heaven. Want to know?
            Of course your purpose is to defend the filth of the Catholics at the same time you are able to point out good they have done.
            Do you not know that ONE sin is all it takes to keep you out of heaven.
            It is NOT about the good you do. It is about the goodness of your heart.
            We Nazarenes call that HEART HOLINESS. It comes when a person dies to SELF and is filled by the Holy Spirit.

        1. Perdido

          Maybe, depends on whose counting, I suppose.
          In any case the Muslims won’t be at the rate they’re murdering one another.

        2. mallen11

          That is because Christians have lost their zeal for the Lord Jesus Christ and are living as unto themselves.

          Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.

          Heb 4:12 For the word of God is alive and powerful sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart

          Heb 12:2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

          Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

          2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that does not need not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

          II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.

  6. mallen11

    I am disappointed but not surprised. The RCC is a manmade religion and does not follow the Word of God.

    1. Perdido

      “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” Jesus Christ, founder of the Catholic Church.

      1. mallen11

        There was no “Church” at the time of Christ’s death on the cross. The focus on the cross was for salvation by faith alone in Christ alone — no works, no paying for salvation, no trying to please God, no sacraments, no rituals, no robes — just faith alone in Christ alone. The early church didn’t even do things that the RCC does — it is all man made and cannot be found in the Word of God; the Bible. The emphasis is growing in grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. Stories and creeds, liturgy and sacraments do not make one have a relationship with Jesus Christ; we need to learn the “mind of Christ” — I Cor 2:16 — those acts of religion are rituals without reality. We need to know what God says in such a way that it fills our frame of reference so we can apply it to every area of our daily life. We don’t need manmade memorized sacraments when we can quote directly from the Scriptures. God’s grace is not dispensed through a robe, a challis, a sacrament, a relic or a shroud – none of these have the power of salvation. It is faith alone in Christ alone that heals us from sin.

        1. Perdido

          Quote the Scripture where Jesus, after breaking the bread and taking the wine tells his disciples, “Do this in memory of me.”
          Isn’t there a quote in some obscure scripture where Jesus reminds his followers that “at any time two or more of you gather in my name…”
          Live the Truth, Live Catholic.

          1. Perdido

            BTW. Don’t fall into the trap set by Satan as he tells of the failings of the Church’s hierarchy and tricks you into believing the Mass is somehow tainted and complicit.
            Go in Peace. May the Lord be with you always.

          2. mallen11

            The mass is a man-made ritual that does not follow the Word of God and is a ritual without reality.

          3. Rex Whitmer

            As are the meetings of your body of religion. No one can honestly say that their meetings are prescribed by God without his spoken word. When was the last time you saw him and he told you that your belief was the only correct one? Don’t Blaspheme!

          4. mallen11

            No blaspheming when using the Word of God; blaspheming is using a man-made religion made up by what man thinks and not what God provides in His written Word.

            Heb 4:12For the word of God is alive and powerful sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

            II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.

            2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

            1 Tim 4:6 In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.
            Maybe as someone who does not know the Lord…
            1 Corinthians 2:14….But the natural man (unbeliever) receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

          5. Rex Whitmer

            And YOU know that this continued without breaks ’til today? I think not. Even the translations are often suspect, so we have to find ways to find the truth. First Timothy If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God whom giveth liberally and forsaketh not!

          6. Perdido

            The mass is the ritual inspired by the teaching of Jesus Christ. (…two or more of you…)
            The Mass (Cap. M) is the congregation.

          7. Rex Whitmer

            Perdido? You know I speak a little Spanish. Is that YOUR name or a made up name?

          8. mallen11

            Live the Truth, Live Christ; not a man made religion. To gather in the name of Jesus Christ means we gather together under the power of the Holy Spirit to learn His written Word from those who teach the entire Bible and apply it to our our daily lives. I know what the RCC’s transubstantiation and the Lutheran con-transubstantiation mean and they are not Biblical. The Biblical viewpoint – I Cor 11:24-25. The blessing is the Bible Doctrine in your soul. Remembering what Jesus Christ did for you on the cross when He took the sins of all mankind in Him for last three hours while God the Father judged them. The ritual is what He did for you on the cross for your salvation and not what He is doing in the elements now or His presence in the elements. The words of the ritual are to be interpreted literally but the elements are not. So that makes the bread and the cup symbolic of the doctrinal truth of Christ’s death; His substitutionary spiritual death.

          9. Rex Whitmer

            Much of the Bible was lost. It wasn’t a Bible until Nicea, when it was decided what to allow to be in the Bible. Revelations and Hebrew almost didn’t make it. Wonder how much more is missing? There’s a lot of lost books floating around, but no one knows exactly which ones should hav been added.

          10. mallen11

            God so directed the human authors of scripture that without destroying their human intelligence without bypassing vocabulary, individuality, their literary style, their personality, personal feelings or any other human factor inherit to a human being, God’s complete thought to man was recorded without error in the words of the original manuscript.

            a. 40 authors –

            b. We have a facsimile that is so close to the original languages that we can say that the Word of God has come down through the years is extremely accurate

            c. There are 5,000 variants in the scriptures but not one change – minus or addition – and they don’t change anything theological

            d. The different versions of the Bible are not the inspired ones including the KJV – some people believe that but it is the ORIGINAL languages that count

            e. There are thousands of literal manuscripts all the way from the 1st C AD almost to the time they were written all the way to the middle ages – fragments of them – Dead Sea Scrolls have proven how accurate our scripture is – it is quite clear where the variants are from all those copies –

          11. Rex Whitmer

            Ah, but Catholics eat the bread of his body, but generally the Priest gets to drink the wine in rembrance of his blood!

      2. Rex Whitmer

        The Catholic Church came into existence about two hundred years after Christ was Crucified.

        1. Perdido

          That’s the current take. It can be argued it began when Jesus Christ commissioned Peter as the Vicar.

          1. mallen11

            No church existed at the time Jesus Christ said this.

            Mt 16:18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build MY church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

            The RCC believes the “rock” was Peter. Petros: the name Peter – His given name was Simon but Jesus changed his name to Peter. Peter means stone – but is not THE Rock who is Jesus Christ. “Stone” is in the masculine gender in Greek. Petra is in the feminine gender and cannot refer to Peter the man. Petra means a large rock – the fortress can only be the Lord Jesus Christ. Peter was a leader of the Apostles until Paul took over. Peter was reprimanded by Paul (Gal 2:1). Peter was the first to confess that Jesus Christ is God and it is that statement that His church would be built – not a building but all Church Age believers. Peter was not the founder of the Church: I Peter (was built on the person of Jesus Christ and no one can pick up the mantel of Christ). The Apostles were given the authority to write the NT Epistles that were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Everywhere they went they established local churches (usually in homes) and left them with a pastor-teacher for the dissemination of the gospel and Bible Doctrine to grow spiritually. No one can be an Apostle after those 12 who had seen Christ.
            Could no longer be Apostles for no one could meet those qualifications.

            The successors are not some man but the NT itself.

          2. Rex Whitmer

            You are correct in the naming of Peter, Christ did rename him. However Christ did not speak Greek when he so named him. John was the last living Apostle, not Peter. He had been condemned
            d to the Island of Patmos. No one knows if he actually ever died. Christ appeared to promise that he would live until he, Christ, returned.

          3. Rex Whitmer

            I think it was quite evident if the scriptures are correct, and I believe that they are.

  7. generalJed

    Yes, Catholics do read the Bible, King James version and Douay version. We are the “original” Christian faith. My cousin, Eugene Lutz was a great priest, serving many parishes faithfully and in total poverty. You ought to thank God for such people!

    1. SED

      The original Christians were born during Christs time. The Catholic church didn’t come about until about the 5th Century. I can quote a verse but no need. Still we are all Christians in practice if we believe in our Savior.. No criticism is intended by me. But the facts need to be stated.

      1. Ron Stanley

        You are correct, it was the first church that Jesus started and it was persecuted by the Roman Impire who instituted the Catholic Church, study up on the subject and you will be amazed at the real truth.:)

        1. Rex Whitmer

          Wrong Ron, Jesus started no Church per se! He had followers who went, east, west north and south preaching, organizing churches. As the followers grew, many attempted to set up churches reflecting various beliefs that were held erroneous by others, so there was great dissatifactions between the groups. Beliefs were wildly different. In the meantime Rome was abandoned as the main city of the Roman empire, and was moved to what is now Turkey! There was discord and the Emporer decided at last to make Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire, due in part to a supposed vision. He told the largest bodies that there had to be a harmony of belief that all could believe in. A great counsel was called in what is now Istanbul. There was a lot bickering, some killing, some maiming, but they came out with a sort of common belief. It was not the Catholic belief of today, but a compromise of a sort as to what they would believe. This was not one hundred percent of the modern belief. Five main churches were formed along with others whom were designated herectics. They were fair game, for the bigger bodies to pick on..Eventualy, in seven hundred Mohamed began his rampage. He changed his religion as he went, attempting to draw in Chrisitans and Jews. Discovered that the Arabs were actually decendents of Abraham, so he adopted that part, pegged Christ as a prophet rather than the son of God, and actually did win some Christians over. The first century of the Muslim terror was very forthcoming in wisdom. Medicine, botany, astrononly, and metalergy were all advances.
          With only two main Christian bodies left in existence, a move wa made in I believe the eleventh or twelfth century to retake the Holy Land of Jerusalem, and thus began the Crusades. Eventually the Muslims were stopped. The Crusaders picked ujp a lot of the scientific and otherwise things and brought them back to their lands and brought about a wealth of knowledge that in the end enlightened European Christians. This is long enough, but DO QUIT FIGHTING among ourselves as to whom is or is not a true Christian! God himself will decide that!

      2. Rex Whitmer

        Your facts are as much subject to a strong Catholic’s criticism as yours is against. In reality, there were seven strong Christian religions before the time of Mohamed. The Muslims managed to wipe out three of them. One eventually became the so called Eastern Othedox, the other the Catholic. The Roman Catholics were the smallest of the seven, but with the Muslims, they began missionary work northward, gaining strength there. After the Muslims were stopped, the Catholic religion continued to grow! Your opinion is clouded by your own beliefs, beliefs they hold dearly. Respect them in their mode of worship as they will yours!

      3. Rex Whitmer

        Actually from the beginning of time, persons who worshiped God were taught of Christ’s coming. Probably from the time of Adam, but the thread becomes more evident as we study the History though our present day scriptures, that Christ’s coming was for seen for a long time before he did come. We have as an example, Abraham taking his son Isaac to be sacrificed. The Prophets spoke of his coming, the sacrifice of animals was a fortaste of what was to come. Mary was humbled when told she was to be his Mother, but doubted not. It wasn’t a sudden decision to save mankind from their sins. It was and is God’s plan to save all who will be saved!

  8. J. Ernst

    As an AMERICAN, I have NEVER accepted the idea that a katholik, muslim, jew, gay (because that too is a religion), morman or atheist BE a president.
    American FIRST and foremost.
    I state this simply because of the Financial Power OF the religions.
    The vatiKan is a SOVEREIGN NATION!!! With its own banks. And require the assimilation of peoples therein…WITHOUT LOSING the very roots of the assimilated masses; voodoo, santaria, death parades in Mexico, Carnival in Brazil…afriKan anti-Christ celebrations….and of course, the end-all assimilation of the communist….and on, and on…
    The jewish AIPAC and the UN are part and parcel in the bankster frauds across the globe. PUTIN JAILED them for attempting to do what SOROS, (a communist/universalist jew) is doing to OUR NATION as I type.
    CAIRE??? A MONSTER lobby with SEVERAL NATIONS worth of banks that, along WITH AIPAC’S endorsement, got U.S. the last “president”: an ILLEGAL ALIEN, bi-sexual, bastard muslim!!!
    Romney; a closely Mexican-tied politician with HEAVY international bankster ties….can you say Drug Cartel?
    The GAY LOBBY RELIGION is very busy attempting to indoctrinate OUR children and grandchildren into a “universalist” scheme of DE-VALUING everything and anything into THEIR religion of tolerance and INCLUSION!!!
    The Anti-American ameriKan groups are plying their RELIGION of EXCLUSION of what it IS to BE American simply because they have NO IDENTITY and anything they can be against IS their religious mantra. That’s the easiest religion of today because mayhem and chaos REQUIRE the ignorant masses to amass for the purpose of_________________you fill in the blank as they do daily…
    President Trump’s wife??? I don’t care unless she is part and parcel to the INTERNAL destruction of MY nation as The United States of America.
    I may be living in a fantasy world thinking that the U.S.A. may STILL BE America…BUT the founding signer’s of our Constitution KNEW that this nation will only survive with an EDUCATED POPULATION. Nothing less.
    The INDIVIDUAL’S FAITH should NEVER overwhelm OUR governments original charter and constitution….but I’ve seen it happen as “our” representatives and the likes of COMEY, Clinton’s, Lynche’s, Holder’s, Kagan’s, Ginsberg’s, McCain’s, Ryan’s serve and protect THEIR HANDLERS and NOT U.S.
    And when MY FREE SPEECH is quashed or pushed aside for the popular “religious” movement of the day, I know that my faith in GOD for GOD’S purpose will be tested daily…
    Personally, I haven’t witnessed a pope worth a hoot since John the XXIII….or the Polish one who actually DID something against communism.
    But whatever, I cringe EVERY time a pope speaks to both houses in DC!!! My first thought is always, “What business model is this one promoting now?!!!”

  9. Murray E

    Catholics and Protestants are both Christian because they believe in Christ.
    Catholics had a great deal of political and financial power at one time. Much more than they do now. Read up on the history and discover why priests, popes, and nuns aren’t allowed to marry.

    1. mallen11

      1 Timothy 4:2-4 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude;

      Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,