Rubio Doesn’t Want Teachers Armed

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) disagreed with President Trump’s idea of arming and training teachers. Rubio stated [President Trump] has issues with the idea and he himself as a parent isn’t “comfortable” with the idea.

Rubio said, “I don’t support that. And I would admit to you right now, I answer that as much as a father as I do as a senator, the notion that my kids are going to school with teachers that are armed with a weapon is not something that, quite frankly, I’m comfortable with. Beyond it, I think it has practical problems, and I’ll share what they are. And this is really about the safety of the teachers as much as anything else. Imagine in the middle of this crisis, and the SWAT team comes into the building, and there’s an adult with a weapon in their hands, and the SWAT team doesn’t know who is who, and we have an additional tragedy that was unnecessary. And so, I understand how some people are saying that, and I’m not belittling them, but as a father, and as someone who has talked to plenty of teachers, including the three in my family, and the assistant principal in my family, I don’t think that would be a good idea, in my view.”

  • clem

    Just another reason “little Marco” (the speed freak) didn’t make it for P.O.T.U.S.

    • Carol Durgin

      He ( Rubio )has something there. It could happen just the way he said it could. There has to be a solution, not Republican or Democratic. Common sense thinking.

  • Earn nest

    They should certainly have the option. It shouldn’t be a crime. But we might be able to identify more of the sort that do these things and help them better.

    • Lawrence King

      Just think of how many kids could have been saved if just one teacher had a gun!!

      • LLJINTL

        Maybe those qualified to carry could wear a dayglow orange vest.

        • George Jetson

          Easier targets for the shooter. Not quite that simple. Their identities would have to be kept secret and be made known to the authorities in charge.

          • Joey

            I agree, also the kids at the schools don’t need to know which teachers are carrying a weapon, unless it can be proven that every student is sane and not apt to causing commotion in the classrooms. And overall there’s a hell of a lot of that in the school systems.

  • Christiann

    We don’t have a gun problem in America! We have a sin problem!! School shootings are a direct result of God being removed from the schools & society!! That kid is under the influence of demonic demons from Hell that’s why he killed people!! We, DEMAND that GOD & HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, be brought back into the schools and society!! If anyone should oppose this, then you need to accept Jesus Christ as Lord because you are under demonic influence!!

    • tomsfordcars

      Amen. Brother! Well said.

    • lieDONTlie

      It is also a drug problem and i’m not talking illegal ones but Big Pharma they have us give a lot of shots as a kid then we have a lot of autisim which 30yrs ago not so much then, we have to give kids more drugs to calm them down,our youth are becoming drug addicts on big pharma so when people get these drugs all there lives shit happens then they want gun control as a cure

      • Joey

        Your reply and the one you replied to are both very accurate, and need to become a public debate.

        • lieDONTlie

          They need a big debate on national TV and not on CNN or the sister networks cause they will rigged it,need to call in all big dogs and need to bring up the Lobbiest also which “bribe”” bribe”” our Congress,congress is not working for the people when they take money to pass a vote,

          • Joey

            I’ With you on that 100%!

  • Tony

    Rubio is always GRAND STANDING and whenever possible will oppose President Trump. Trump did not say all teachers should be armed. He specifically said there may be some teachers who are retired military or police. The teacher may also be a fully trained NRA member who respects the guns he has the priviledge to own and carry(Like me) . Along with the gun, I believe the teacher should also have at his disposal a bullet proof vest that is brightly colored and says teacher across the front and rear so the swat team Rubio is worrying about will not try to shoot him.

    • George Jetson

      And what’s to prevent the shooter who is aware of this tactic about wearing a “bullet proof vest that is brightly colored and says teacher across the front and rear” from doing the same to cover his identity and fool the SWAT team. This should not be left up to Rubio because schools also have to worry about ensuing lawsuits from accidental shootings by teachers who don’t react well such as the deputies who did just that. An Ar-15 with or without a bump stock easily outmatches a small single firing handgun.

      • Tony

        First off George, He wouldn’t be walking into the school from the outside with the vest on. That in itself would be a tip off. The vest would be in a closet in the school only to be worn in the event of a shooter entering the school. You have to protect and give an edge to the armed good guy. Anyone trying to walk into the school with a brightly colored vest from the outside through security cameras and generally in sight of all is a sure give away what their intentions are.

        • George Jetson

          In that post you just answered your own question. You have to assume that any future shooter will be trying to find a way to outwit security and the public. Just reading your post will give a shooter an idea of how to carry out their disgraceful act. How many movies, television series, YouTube videos and criminal programs like Dateline have you watched that might help a criminal get away with a crime. Don’t make this a competition of wits because I quoted your previous post. This is exactly what those planning to commit a crime for the future will be doing. For all I and you know someone here on this very website could be doing just that, gathering information so that they can avoid being killed or caught. There are thousands of cold cases out there that went planned without anyone getting caught.

          • Tony

            Nice cheap shot George. You must be a Liberal. Blame me for trying to educate the criminals. That idea has been around for decades. Maybe you ought to look at all your Liberal friends in Hollywood that have taught the loonies in our society a hundred or more different ways to kill someone, torture them, rape them, sodimize them, child pedophilia, the “F Bomb” a hundred or more times in every movie coming out of Hollywood, and you try that Liberal crap of blaming me. Good try George. You need a dose of truth serum so you can tell where all this has been coming from for decades.

    • Big Iron

      Rubio works for the PTB via the Republican establishment, of course he is going to attack Trump. Rubio is just another traitor.

  • James Maxwell

    There are some teachers that I personally would not want to be armed either, they do not have the mental
    ability to react in an emergency due to their political choice. I would never trust a left leaning Liberal to even
    know what to do regardless of the training they might receive. There are also many GOP members who I
    would put my faith in them either. It would depend upon the individual and I would first want them to take a
    mental exam to determine if they have the proper mental stability before proceeding with any training. Much
    like the Fl deputies who hid and let people die. That is not to say they might have save lives but their act
    of cowardness is unspeakable. Any one who would be authorized to carry a weapon must be trained and
    pass qualification plus be certified as a reserve police officer and undergo continual training to insure they
    maintain the proper qualification to handle a weapons in a crisis.

    • Big Iron

      There are also far too many cops who should NOT be armed or even on the force!

  • Tony

    Why no one in the FAKE NEWS Media ever mentions that it was a NRA member who took down the shooter in that southern church where a previous mass shooting took place.

    • Big Iron

      There are a lot of NRA members who CC and most people will NEVER know it …unless it becomes necessary to act.

    • Terry Butts

      The media will never report anything that jeopardizes their political agenda.

      I recall when that post office shooting happened in Oklahoma several years back the news actually reported the facts the criminal checked the RIFLES he used out of a military arsenal on the excuse he was going to train with them so no civilian gun ban would have stopped the crime. A few months later the station was TAKEN OVER by some new owner and just a year after the attack they had the SAME NEWS personality touting the BRADY BILL would have stopped the crime.

  • Earn nest

    I heard a girl who walked out of the building talking to Nick Cruz say the shooting was still going on then. Don’t know if it’s true but this has come up time and again in recent massacres. In any case I suspect there’ll be a teacher now go ballistic somewhere. Watch out for yourselves parents and tell your kids what you think they should do.

    • Big Iron

      I have heard that same thing. She also described him as appearig unarmed and ?drugged?. IF her testimony IS true that makes the event a “false-flag” operation just like most of the recent shooting events. which had a “patsy” under a doctors care on drugs prescribed by that doctor [shades of MK-Ultra]! This NEEDS a thorough investigation …at once! Something stinks!

  • jayrh

    When someone says things like this, they are basing their decisions on emotions rather than facts and logic. John Lott Jr. has done tremendous research about concealed carry and the reduction of crime, as well as research about mass shootings and “gun free” zones. Somehow, the scenario where cops don’t know who the actual criminal is when someone besides the shooter is armed doesn’t really play out in real life.

    Personally, I believe that teachers should be able to carry but our kids are too important not to have actual armed security also…

    This speaks volumes to what Rubio knows about conservatism and why we actually believe the things we do… Perhaps, Marco has just been saying things that he believes we want to hear? Or maybe, he’s trying to walk a thin line because he knows one of his major donors is advocating gun control?

    According to R.J. Rummel, who’s life work was the study of democide (death by government), the 20th century saw the deaths of over 250 million people, where their own governments were responsible in one way or another! Many of these deaths were enabled by gun control… Our founders knew what kind of a world that we live in. That’s a primary reason for the Second Amendment! This number is so huge that if you could stop all gun deaths completely, the lives saved wouldn’t add up to this in our lifetimes…

    In 1995, a card carrying member of the ACLU, named Gary Kleck, began a career studying crime. He wrote a paper for The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, where he found that guns were used defensively 2.2 to 2.5 million times a year. In the surveys that he used, one of the questions was whether a life was saved as a result of this defensive use. The result? Respondents believed with a certainty that 400,000 lives were saved! Compare this with less than 20,000 murders per year in the US and maybe you start to get an idea of why the NRA is passionate about thwarting gun control. It will almost certainly cost lives!

    Protect our children and stop trying to kill the rest of us!!!

    • Big Iron

      More importantly. The only reason we have even a semblance of freedom and liberty left is because of the 2nd Amendment. The PTB is hesitant to take on an armed American people!

  • Luke Lugnore

    No wonder you didn’t get elected.You are
    no different than all rinos and Dems.
    The President wants to prorect your kids and mine.Get gun free zones and arm
    Teachers.

    • Big Iron

      There is only one political party with two sub-parties both of which are controlled by the corrupt international PTB. Most elections are “rigged”. In recent history: JFK was to be President because of a promise by the PTB to his father for his help is creating the “market crash of 1929 that created the “Great Depression” that one of his sons would become President. JFK double-crossed the PTB and became a “real President for the people” which is why he was murdered. Ronald Reagan was NOT supposed to be President but he had charisma of being a grade ‘B’ actor and became President anyway. He tried to do the job right but when the 2nd attempted assassination almost succeeded he followed his orders. Now we have Donald Trump who was not even a politician much less a Republican and who met opposition from both the corrupt Democrat and Republican establishments. Trump WAS actually drafted by the Army in order to forestall an American civil war and World War 3 that the corrupt international PTB wanted to occur.

      • bjensen

        Your tin foil hat has a hole in it, might want to change it before the black helicopters fly over with their mind-control machines

  • Voice of Reason

    “…and the SWAT team comes into the building…” Right! In what world does he live?The SWAT team might come into the building…. right after those deputies, one of whom was directing traffic, and the other three who were hiding behind their cars. Had the two coaches who gave their lives shielding their students been armed I suspect the Parkland tragedy would have had a very different script.

  • WakeUpAmerica

    It’s so ironic that politicians will hold teachers up as all being pillars of the community. However, they feel they are not capable of protecting our children with a firearm. Besides, by the time SWAT gets there the shooting is over. Furthermore, The Sheriff of Broward County,FL needs to go along with any deputies that agree with him. For some reason law enforcement in this country can’t seem to admit when they’re wrong! Sad.

    • EC

      The full-of-shit politicians may hold the teachers up as all being pillars of the community, but such is not the case. There are many among them who are incompetent and of questionable moral character. If you’re comfortable arming them in the classroom, I really question your judgement.

  • Leon Barber

    Each state should do what they think is best for their state.

  • George Jetson

    FOR ONCE, I AGREE WITH MARCO RUBIO. MOST OF ALL BECAUSE I WOULDN’T TRUST A TEACHER TO SHOOT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND IF HIT BY A SHOOTER AND SHOT DEAD WOULD ONLY PROVIDE A LOOSE GUN FOR SOME IDIOT STUDENT TO PICK UP AND POSSIBLY PANIC AND SHOOT THEMSELVES OR OTHERS IN THE MELEE. AND IF BY CHANCE THE TEACHER SHOOTS A STUDENT BY ACCIDENT WOULD THEY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE AND POSSIBLY BE SUED AND/OR FACE IMPRISONMENT FOR ALLOWING GUNS ON THE PROPERTY.
    I own several weapons and have noticed that some experienced shooters or visitors react in a panic when hearing gunfire even when at a legal gun range. Just close off the schools to authorized badged personnel (student and teachers must have id’s to enter) and have metal detectors in use at all gated entrances far from the school buildings. Personal vehicles are only allowed in a separate gated and fenced facility. Yes, this sounds similar to a prison or a federal building but should be preferable to allowing free access to an armed shooter.

    • LLJINTL

      Or God forbid the teacher blows a kids head off for chewing gum…

      • George Jetson

        Yes, at times I’ve seen teachers react in anger with a simple pointing stick, eraser or paddle. It’s a good thing I’m not a teacher. Some of these kids can really piss you off.

        • bjensen

          If some of those kids had a paddle taken to them once or twice, they probably wouldn’t be so out of control.
          (and no, we’re not taking “abuse”)

          • EC

            Paddling kids at school is now illegal, so cut the “if only” crap and figure out a solution in the real world, not your fantasy one. The opportunity for abuse by armed teachers is very real. I, for one, have very little faith in today’s crop of (mostly liberal) teachers and their ability to carry out anything in a logical manner. I have seen unbelievable incompetency in some of my son’s teachers over the years, and I can’t imagine these same individuals being armed. It is also quite apparent from countless recent stories that some teachers are NOT the law abiding citizens you make them out to be.

      • Terry Butts

        A properly trained teacher would do no such thing an IMPROPERLY trained on could just use any of the BLUNT objects or SPEAR like weapons available at every school to do the same harm to a child.

        CRIMINALS do not obey these bans so all the law does is FORCE those would try and save the children in such an attack into a situation were they only have means to attack at melee range while the attacker can be over 80 feet away.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

        This not a problem about GUNS it is a problem about the RARE instance when BRAINWASHED children with mental disorders feel they are justified in punishing those they feel wronged them or that just want to see their names in the media the way PAST shooters have been.

        There have been just as many SCHOOL STABBINGS etc. even a few BOMBINGS in nations with 100% gun bans yet our media IGNORING the real problem focuses exclusively on just ONE OF TOOLS covered by CONSTITUTIONAL RESTRICTION on governments authority prohibiting them from taking them away from the MILLIONS of US CITIZENS who have NEVER HARMED A SINGLE PERSON but are being FALSELY ACCUSED of being responsible for these attacks because they will not allow the TYRANT WANNABES in our government to scrap the BILL OF RIGHTS that keeps getting in the way of their political agenda.

        It is a proven fact of history going all the way back to the ROMAN EMPIRE when the Caesar banned private citizens from carrying swords that such bans PRECEDE government abolishment of rights and ENSLAVEMENT or MASS EXECUTIONS of the people. Before hitler started the DEATH CAMPS (officially referred to as refugee camps, reeducation camps, or work camps) he made it law that JEWS could not own guns and that they had to TURN THEM IN to the government.

        Much of the ANTI GUN PROPAGANDA I have heard could pass as an ENGLISH translation of the same BS he and his supporters spouted as the reason for that law and the ones that followed.

        Now they are even TARGETING the MILLIONS of US citizens who organized to prevent the abolishing of the BILL OF RIGHTS even calling for the MILLIONS OF THEM to be murdered on the FALSE accusation that it is their fault these shootings happen because they OPPOSE the governments agenda even just pointing out the fact that each GUN RESTRICTION has increased the crime rate even gave the criminals “GUN FREE ZONES” where they can openly attack in safety because they know that any law abiding victims in the zone will not be able to shoot back when attacked with no fear that ANYONE will be enforcing that zone with metal detectors or armed guards as if TELLING THE TRUTH somehow CAUSED the crimes.

        IF we EXPAND upon the flawed arguments used by the ANTI gun groups then

        1) Planes would have to be banned in one incident just two planes that were MISUSED to harm people resulted in well over 100 thousand deaths yet there was no cry to BAN the BOX-CUTTERS the hijackers used or BAN planes or PUNISH plane makers for making such a DEADLY BOMB.

        2) Vehicles would have to be banned there have been at least three school attacks where the weapon used was a vehicle as the CRIMINAL ran down children on the playground at least one of these was STOPPED by an armed CIVILIAN that was nearby in fact it was after that the GUN FREE ZONE stupidity was proposed on the grounds that it would have STOPPED the criminal from using his vehicle to run the children down (actually only making it a crime for the one who STOPPED him to be armed in the area)

        3) Money would have to banned after all most every crime that happens is about MONEY so if we BAN IT those crimes will end (remember this is the same as saying if we ban guns the CRIMINALS will suddenly stop committing crimes)

        This list could go on for pages if I named every INANIMATE OBJECT the ILLOGICAL claims of the anti gun groups could point to as the CAUSE of the crime when we IGNORE the facts and go after anything but the CAUSE of the crime the way the media and politicians do.

        In nations that have ALREADY adopted the anti gun groups agenda they have now moved on to banning/restricting KNIVES they even had a MASS STABBING on a train just a few days ago the WEAPON changed but the PROBLEM remains. In fact it has been going on for years in nations that have a total gun ban.

        http://search.pch.com/search?q=Mass+stabbing+on+train&cat=web

        https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/us/portland-train-stabbing/index.html

        People have been arrested for MAKING guns from scrap proving that even if an UNCONSTITUTIONAL 100% ban on LEGAL guns is made it would not have stopped any criminal from ILLEGALLY acquiring a gun or just using a BOMB or other already banned weapon to carry out their planned crime.

        Those who actually know history know the NFA was not about stopping criminals most of the ones they pointed to as the excuse had already been dealt with and CONFESSED that most if not all the guns they used INCLUDING THE FULL AUTOS were stolen by them from either the police or MILITARY in other words the GROUPS exempted from nearly every gun restriction imposed upon private citizens.

        In that ones journal he actually wrote that one of his favorite ways to get his weapons was to pretend to be drunk to get locked up overnight then break out of his cell late at night and loot the stations armory while measures have been taken to prevent that type of theft today according to reports GOVERNMENT agencies have lost track of hundreds if not thousands of guns that were under their control. they are most likely in the hands of criminals today.

        This school shooting resulted in the number of deaths it had because they made that school a GUN FREE ZONE then relied on the HONESTY of the people entering the zone to OBEY it and leave their weapons at home ignoring the fact that a criminal bent on harming others for whatever reason is NOT GOING to suddenly throw away the weapon they chose simply because it is UNLAWFUL for them to take it into the ZONE they targeted.

        Not even PRISONS can keep guns out as proven by the large number of CONFISCATED WEAPONS the government has that were taken from prisoners in the most SECURE REGULATED MICROMANAGED LIFE OF ALL PRISONERS facilities. So even if they had secured the schools with METAL DETECTORS, ARMED GUARDS at every door, and a NATIONWIDE gun ban a CRIMINAL could still commit such a horrific crime and worse could used something even deadlier than a gun to do so.

        https://www.correctionsone.com/contraband/articles/1961780-15-deadly-improvised-prison-weapons-and-tools/

      • bjensen

        I hope this was a poor attempt at sarcasm…

        • George Jetson

          If she’s a teacher…maybe,…maybe not? I think she’s just daydreaming during class if she is a teacher. Not sure I could blame her.

    • Big Iron

      You can’t depend on the police to shoot in the right direction either …or at all in the case of the shooting in reference. …which means that training and evaluation is required of ALL of those who would carry is necessary including; Air Marshalls are a good example. ALL teachers would NOT be required to be armed but today even those teachers who are qualified CANNOT carry in the schools. Nor can qualified adults whom studies show are more law-abiding than law-enforcement.

      • George Jetson

        Exactly. This could easily turn into the gunfight at the O.K. Corral. More armed participants wouldn’t necessarily mean a quick end to the shooting if people are panicking and in shock.

        • Terry Butts

          That is where TRAINING comes in otherwise we could say the same about any police response.

          Problem arises when the police are ERRONEOUSLY trained to target anyone with a gun instead of looking at the situation and responding based on what is actually going on.

          Like the one who SHOT the homeowner for holding the CAR THIEF at gunpoint even after they were TOLD over the phone that they would be holding the car thief at gun point waiting for the police to arrive and take custody of him. the PARANOID officer simply shot the first person he saw armed with a gun without even getting close enough to be heard by either of them.

          Or the one where the OFF duty police officer with a HOLSTERED gun was shot WHILE TALKING with other officers with their guns HOLSTERED when their backup arrived after the situation had already been handled with the aid of the OFF DUTY officer they REACTED to the sight of the gun NOT the situation a HOLSTERED GUN is not being used to threaten much less endanger anyone.

        • bjensen

          Typical Liberal Horse Crap response every time a Pro Firearms/Pro Self-Defense law has been passed…

          “The blood will run in the streets”
          “There’ll be shoot-outs on every corner”
          “It will be like the OK Corral”

          The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling……

          • EC

            Typical reactionary horse crap every time a reasonable person shoots holes in your logic. No one is denying your right to own a firearm, and I suspect most of us are pro Second Amendment (I certainly am). But that doesn’t mean I want to give a gun to every teacher in the classroom, particularly when the competency of many of them is highly questionable. It’s not hard to imagine scenarios where this would create far more problems than it would solve. My guess is that you don’t have any school-aged children, otherwise I don’t think this issue would be so cut and dried to you…

          • George Jetson

            Extremely sen-see-tive, are we not bjensen? I’m no liberal as you posted. Though I am more of a centrist. I have friends on both sides of the aisle and I respect their private opinions. If by chance you read one of my earlier posts I did say I own several weapons which includes a Colt AR-15 and a Norinco AK-47 (Chinese made) and some small hand guns. I’m also an NRA member since 1977 way before they became so politically biased. Don’t be so stupid and ignorant to assume its just been a Republican issue. In Texas, where I grew up, the NRA also backed the Democrats through the 70s and the 80s and vice-versa. How times have changed. This has nothing to do with a “Typical Liberal Horse Crap response every time a Pro Firearms/Pro Self-Defense law has been passed…” type of deal. My friends who are Democrat and Republican are also responsible gun owners and support sensible gun laws that support the 2nd amendment right to bear arms. Try walking into a Walmart where everyone has a concealed weapon and see what happens the minute one person decides to fire their handgun at a suspected shooter who was just another person who had a concealed weapons permit.

          • do you know how many people died a the OK Corral? maybe you find out before you spout any more nonsense. Oh, and the sky is NOT falling

      • EC

        Don’t you think that paying teachers to carry a weapon might be a bit problematic? Have you thought about the fiasco that will take place once the (liberal) teacher’s unions take offense at the pay discrepancy between those who carry and those who don’t? Once the shitstorm is over, they’ll see to it that everyone gets the same pay, gun or not. This will then result in one of two possible scenarios: NO teachers will be armed, or ALL teachers will be armed. Judging from the leftist (I.e. anti-gun) mentality of the unions, it’s more likely that none of them will be.

      • Kirk Chartier

        My thoughts are still, if they can’t be trusted to save the lives of children under direct fire, how can you trust them in tornado or fire or medical emergency. And if you can’t trust them in all of the above situations why are you letting them teach your children. But not just teachers what about janitors, grounds keepers. But it should also start with training for all in ways to secure your classrooms and combat life saver techniques for dealing with non first-aid type wounds.
        But like in the military they will trust you with a Bradley, Abrams, Warthog, Apache or Raptor to fight for your country but not with a handgun to protect your personal life.
        If they can’t be trusted to use a handgun with good judgment. Then it is either a training issue or they shouldn’t be in any position of responsibility or authority.

    • EC

      I agree with you 100%. I fully support the right of gun ownership, but this is just an example of a knee-jerk reaction from the right (usually seen coming from the left, but it looks like they want equal time…).

      • George Jetson

        Agreed EC. We all easily label each other and ourselves conservative, liberal, left and right (and with time these labels change definition) and in time it’ll be another blue and gray conflict which is what some of our enemies (Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc.) are hoping for. Both sides, left and right (still labeling) are to blame and just need to reach a resolution without stepping on each others constitutional rights and those of us caught in the middle.

    • Kirk Chartier

      And we are to take advice from a guy who uses the name o

  • DES

    I guess he feels more “comfortable” with a “This is a gun-free zone” sign protecting his children!

    • Big Iron

      Why don’t we just declare the schools to be a “SAFE PLACE” and a “GUN FREE ZONE” and put up
      the proper signage …that would stop the ‘miscreants’ wouldn’t it
      (NOT)!

      When response is required it must be instant and overpowering for
      such things to actually work so it falls to the teachers! Teachers who
      can and will qualify for conceled carry and be evaluated …and
      “maintain” their proficiency are needed. They should get a bonus in pay
      as long as they maintain their proficiency.

      • EC

        That seems to be quite a random thing, as many teachers would either NOT qualify or would refuse to arm themselves ( don’t forget how many teachers are gun-hating liberals). At best, it would be the luck of the draw whether students would get an armed teacher or an unarmed one. That would do no good whatsoever for those who didn’t. If the idea is to protect ALL students, then arming teachers is not really a viable solution. It seems to me that the focus needs to be on preventing guns from being brought onto campus to begin with. The one thing that seems to be common in all of these campus shootings is that despite the “gun free” rhetoric, the shooters still managed to walk onto campus fully armed. We have taken precautions to prevent this type of thing from happening in court houses across the country, yet campus security is a joke. If it means treating schools as prisons, so be it.

        • Kirk Chartier

          Reality check! I worked in a jail and we found weapons all the time. And the inmates were stripped searched. Would you like some security guard handling your daughter.

      • Kirk Chartier

        And actually carry!! If not you are as big a coward or maybe an accomplice, like the Sheriff’s deputies that accepted money to do a job and then failed.

    • Kirk Chartier

      Sarcasm noted, and agreed with

  • Terry Butts

    If he is not COMFORTABLE with armed security for his children then he should lose the ARMED SECURITY that protects him on the same grounds. It is HYPOCRITICAL to have the protection of armed security paid for by taxpayers at nearly every place the politician goes but spout that not even basic security much less the same level of SECURITY be provided children while at school.

    Statistics and FACTS have proven that NO GUN BAN stops those criminals who want to harm others add in NUMEROUS court cases where judges have repeatedly ruled that it is NOT THE ROLE OF POLICE to protect individuals and it adds up to anyone not wanting TRAINED teachers able to STOP a school ATTACK does not care about the safety of children.

    They are no better than that COLLAGE that refused to even allow the guard they had to be armed because of their HATRED for the US CONSTITUTION and the rights of the people. There were TRAINED people at the place that could have stopped that one even tried to but were UNARMED because of the GUN FREE ZONE nonsense that ensures that ONLY THE CRIMINAL BREAKING NUMEROUS LAWS will be armed.

    Before the GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA that life has no meaning as they promote EUTHANASIA and ABORTION it was hardly if ever we heard of someone with a MENTAL PROBLEM attacking a school.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    1764, July 26 – Enoch Brown – (10 deaths)

    This is NOT a problem that is a US GUN issue nor something RECENT this is a problem with criminals even the FOUNDERS understood this because it HAPPENED before the constitution was even written while we were DISARMED and DEFENSELESS under BRITISH rule.

    If you actually follow the linked wiki and read you will find that many of these “SHOOTINGS” listed especially before the gun free zone imposition were in fact just accidents. You will also note they INCREASED in number with each new gun restriction that was imposed on the FALSE promise that it would END school shootings or STOP crime.

    In fact ONE so called school shooting the MEDIA reported was TWO MILES from the school the media labeled a SCHOOL SHOOTING because they idiotically put the school into lock-down over a STAND OFF between police and someone who took up arms refusing to be evicted from the home they lived in for years. The place was surrounded there was NO CHANCE the person was going to flee much less end up at the school.

    No law has ever STOPPED a crime. The law just states a certain action or set of actions is a crime and OUTLINES the punishment for that crime if one is APPREHENDED. For decades the only thing that STOPPED CRIME was children being taught RESPECT for others, RESPECT for LIFE, and that even if they were not caught by man GOD would punish them forever in the afterlife.

    The government has spent DECADES trying to undue these teachings in an effort to have MINDLESS DRONES that will BLINDLY obey. IF you ever look into the actual facts concerning the MC Donald hoaxer crimes you will see that this has worked very well the people in prison BLINDLY obeyed the voice on the phone because they THOUGHT it was a police officer even when he ordered them to BREAK THE LAW and do things that not even a police officer is allowed to do in the name of HELPING find evidence of some fictitious crime. If not for the INDOCTRINATION that they had to BLINDLY obey GOVERNMENT they would have called him out on his outrageous demands or at least FOLLOWED the instructions in their instruction manual on how to deal with the call.

    Remember the US MEDIA rarely if ever reports that ATTACKS on schools that are done using knives, vehicles, or BLUNT INSTRUMENTS (the most common) because they know that until people are DISARMED it would only show that it is not THE TOOL the criminal chose that is the PROBLEM it is the PERSON who COMMITTED the crime that is at fault.

    This individual fails to understand that had the criminal NOT been able to get a gun he most likely would have used a MORE POWERFUL bomb and killed far more in his attack because it was not an attack carried out because he was able to get a gun it was an attack carried out because in his MENTAL STATE he felt justified in HARMING and KILLING those he blamed for whatever issues he had or he wanted to be FAMOUS as the MEDIA will harp about this and PROMOTE his name for years to come just as they do for all the criminals who commit such horrific acts.

    • Big Iron

      The corrupt, international PTB know they can’t win against an “armed” populace; that is why they support disarming the people. Remember Japanese Admiral Yamamoto is reported to have said: “We cannot attack the American mainland; there would be a gun behind every bush.”

      • 1186mp

        I believe that was a gun behind every blade of grass.

  • Big Iron

    Rubio is just another failed “minion” of the corrupt, international PTB who realize that the “Constitutional” recognition of that self-defense IS a “natural right” of ALL people to be able to defend themselves from those who would cause them harm including failed governments. This was recognized by our founders because their previous government had failed them and realized that had they NOT been already armed their overthrow of their failed government would NOT have been possible and they would have continued to be abused by their then government. To have gotten to the point of being a contender for the office of the Presidency he had to have sold out to the PTB as both the Republican establishment works for the PTB, as does the Democrat establishment.

  • gideonrockwell

    Just when you think Little Marco has shed his RINO skin, he hits a new level of ignorance. The commissioned law officers that were in place to save those kids were too busy cowering under cover waiting on the cavalry to arrive to save their sorry skins to save 17 kids whose safety they were responsible for. The SWAT Guy’s if not on constant standby have to get out of regular uniform into their Ninja suits. Then when they get there they have to do recon. Whether at a school or at the mall or in your home the bottom line is you are responsible for your own safety and the safety of your family. For those who know him Uncle Ted said it best, “This life we have is a gift from GOD and we would be very poor stewards of it if we didn’t do everything necessary to preserve it.” It’s a jungle out there and you need a good weapon to fend off the beasts that roam it.

  • Bruce Von Sprecken

    Rubio is wishy washy like all spineless Repubs. They talk big and when going gets a little rough they fold like a rose petal in the frost! They are disgusting and cannot be trusted!! That Cornyn from Texas is the one before Rubio to turn McCain and defect. We know Democoms are the enemies but those nasty Rino’s are sneaky!

    • Carol Durgin

      Your opinion, and that really doesn’t mean much, in the grand scheme of things. This is so much more than Republican versus democrats. Eventually they will have to work things out. It’s not going to be an easy solution.

      • Bruce Von Sprecken

        You are right Carol! My opinion never seems to matter very much in this liberal atmosphere. It is just my little opinion and I do not think nothing will ever get worked out between the Communist Democrats and the true Constitution loving Republicans!! They will probably get along just fine with the yellow spineless Republicans! Good Reply Carol!

  • Rayfromdanorth

    Rubio is acting as he has become famous for.A sneaky spineless little p.o.s that wouldn,t know a firearm from a golf club. PLAYS THE GAME like he is one of the conservative stalwarts, yet plays to the libs every chance it is in covenant to have a spine. He makes me sick all right, but not for same reason that that young CNN scripted kid called him out. Better for the nation if he stayed home and played with his boat.

  • ridleymike

    Rubio is clearly an idiot and knows nothing about gun safety. Did he miss the part where they would be extremely trained? Having that training the teacher would know the steps to take to not be shot by the police. That’s the whole point of training. If you are CC you know that you need to disarm yourself when the police arrive and to be prepared to be restrained until they can sort it out. It’s like CPR you step up and try to save someone until the help gets there. By doing so you can save lives. Swat and police only show up after these shootings. Of course Rubio is a hippocrit since his children are most likely being guarded. But he thinks his are more important than ours.

  • ridleymike

    The catholic schools can arm the nuns. They’re tough. They used to beat us regularly. It could be nuns with guns and they have plenty of places to hide them under those nun clothes.

    • Jim Doyle

      The nuns that taught me wouldent need a gun they were tough enough to handle most bad guys with a yardstick but that was before Vatican II

  • Jerry

    I have to Agree on this. Teachers are there to teach, not as armed security. Put armed guards in there for that.

  • Min0taur

    I like Senator Rubio but in this instance I think he is wrong. Schools should be locked down during class hours with stringent access and egress clearance at a single checkpoint. I think arming teachers should be on a strictly voluntary basis. Those teachers volunteering should be paid incentive pay. A school could be adequately protected if 20% of the teachers were armed.

    • bjensen

      No one is suggesting it be a mandatory process.

      • EC

        So, if it’s not a mandatory process, then how in the hell is it supposed to keep all of the kids safe? It seems that it’s time to go back to the drawing board to come up with a solution that is more all-inclusive.

    • EC

      As I stated before, you are opening up a very BIG can of worms when you offer incentive pay to teachers who carry. Do you really think that will fly once the teachers unions take offense at the discrepancy in pay? And don’t say “f*** the unions”, because, whether we agree with them or not, they are very real and very powerful, and they will sure as hell throw a wrench into your plan. I would also add that your estimate of a 20% arming rate for teachers is overly optimistic. You are assuming that all of those teachers are competent with a firearm and will remain cool-headed one the shooting starts. In the real world, there might perhaps be one or two that would react appropriately while the rest would be more of a liability than an asset. The problem with this whole concept is that it assumes that the teachers are some sort of super humans, which we all know is far from the truth.

  • Donald Hufford

    How many die while they wait for the Swat team to arrive?

  • Jmanjo

    Rubio is too confused to make good decisions.

  • Robb

    It is really a “no brainer”. Teachers willing to be armed and trained are the only realistic potential protection for our students. It is the only possibility to quickly address a shooter and limit the carnage. Medal detection at a single or double entrance would help but to end multiple massacre multiple teachers willing to stand up for the students in the single option. I speak from 43 years of experience at the elementary, middle school, senior high and district level administration.

  • cjakobsson

    The senator is right. In a school with several hallways in each building, and possibly with more than one building, you could have a responding, armed teacher still looking for the gunman, with his own gun drawn, wearing civilian clothing, at the time that the police arrive on the scene. In the middle of all the pandemonium that would be prevailing at the time, it is highly probable that the responding officers would think that the armed teacher was the active shooter they were looking for, and they would shoot the teacher right away.
    They would apologize later for their mistake, and they might even attend the teacher’s funeral, but none of that would bring back the teacher.
    When all things are taken into account, the arming of teachers would be a serious mistake.

  • There is no real answer to the problem of school shootings. Best one I have read is to hire combat vets to protect schools. There is to many venerable’s in arming teachers. Can you be sure the teacher would freeze up like the deputies did? I was a firefighter for 35 years and I found out, sometimes, that some will leave when things get dicey. The combat vet has faced gun fire and is better prepared to stand too when it comes to a fire fight and is trained to avoid friendly fire. The other thought is to furnish id cards that requires running it through a scanner with a guard so as to not let in someone not allow.

    • EC

      Thanks for putting some more options out there. I, for one, don’t have faith in armed teachers doing the right thing for the very reason you mentioned.

  • kenbarber

    RUBIO not very bright is he?

  • wilfred

    WHY ARE SOME SENATORS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TEACHERS CARRY A GUN WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL THE TEACHERS JOB IS TO TEACH AND PROTECT HIS STUDENT IN HIS CLASS ROOM AND IF SOMETHING SHOULD EVER HAPPEN AGAIN THEN AT LEAST THE KIDS WOULD HAVE THE TEACHERS HELP TO STOP THE GUN MAN SO WHY IS NT THAT OK

  • Brenda Lowery

    If the bad person knows that teachers are carrying a gun, well that bad person will go somewhere else

    • EC

      And what if the bad person happens to be a teacher?

  • Jim Doyle

    by the time the swat team gets there the bad guy will already be taken care of.

  • RGW

    This is why you were not elected President. Anyone who denies that an armed teacher is not a deterrent to would be killers in our schools is a buffoon. Israel has proven that fact beyond a shadow of a doubt, in over 40 years they have had only 2 attempts at mass murder on their schools and the children, thanks to teachers with firearms. Not simple hand guns or AR-15’s but with fully automatic military rifles carried in plane view while out side, nothing says you are important to me, enough that I will risk my life to protect yours as a parent, teacher, citizen, etc. standing guard around our children. When librashits demand abortions on demand, why do we listen to them when they try to disarm citizens who are willing to protect children.

    • George Jetson

      Actually this is what we’ve arrive to. We are somewhat like Israel and the Middle East. Perhaps we should look into seeing how the Israeli’s handle these type of situations. Perhaps that’s where the solution can be found.

      • RGW

        I know that Israel has the solution, George. They have also proven that their border control, mass transit security systems are much better at identifying and isolating threats than any other western nation. Mostly because they don’t stick their heads in the sand and continue to use insane ideas that have proven all too often that they don’t work. Basically, they are not clinically insane, Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, i.e. “Gun Free Zones”??? Remember these are the same demashits that demand abortions on demand, then scream save the children by taking firearms from the law abiding citizen. I would be willing to stand guard at my children’s school, using my own weapon and my own ammo at no charge, now that’s real love not gun free platitudes.

        • George Jetson

          Not a bad idea RGW. A volunteer security militia consisting of parents with good background checks and weapons experience. You should throw that idea out to the schools and the state and local government. Makes more sense than arming the teachers or students. Sort of like a PTA but with parents that can be trusted to provide armed security for the schools.

  • JeffD13

    All you ever have is BS Rubio…safety guns in school shut down any shooter is the plan…you worry over what ifs?…deal with the attempt to murder your kids and let all else work itself out. The training will include such situations if they pop up. Conclusion: shooter down or stopped from further murder and defensive weapons are set down. PLANS Rubio…PLANS!

    • EC

      In other words, don’t take the time to think this out, Rubio. Just get guns in the hands of as many teachers as possible, and let the chips fall where they will. Your moronic constituents demand it…

      • JeffD13

        I did not say what you think or want me to say…of course there is training, all intelligent and thoughtful people understand that to be.

  • jim jones

    Overpopulation is THE problem; but no one speaks of it, the everyday stress of no room to breath or roam, the pushing and shoving cause many social problems leading to this kind of shit. The human race is fornicating itself out of existence!

    • George Jetson

      HAHAHA!!! EXCELLENT POST AND SO TRUE! LOVE THAT LAST LINE. Here we come Mars or Alpha Centauri Bb. Please pack your weapons.

  • Willard Whitmore

    Marco Polio is entitled to his opinion, however what he fails to realize, if teachers were trained and armed, there would be no problem with SWAT teams mistaking teachers for perpetrators, “in the middle of the crisis”, because the problem would over before the SWAT team even found out there had been a crisis!

    • bjensen

      Or at the very least, before the SWAT team arrived….

    • EC

      How simple you make it sound! It’s just a matter of training and arming the teachers. Law enforcement does much more extensive training than these teachers will ever hope to receive, yet even cops regularly make mistakes through panic, confusion, etc. To think that an armed teacher will remain calm and do exactly the right thing once the bullets start to fly is foolish at best. These people chose to become teachers, not law enforcement officers. It’s a bit like expecting a surgeon to become a jet engine mechanic, or vice versa. The likelihood of success is not very great. The focus needs to be on preventing weapons from being brought onto campus to begin with. There is obviously extreme laxness in school security, and that’s where the focus should be. If schools have to become like our courthouses, with armed guards and metal detectors, so be it.

  • I think the most remarkable correlation is that as the references to Christianity have been systematically removed from the public schools, the amount of violence and murder by students has increased.
    Coincidence? I think not. And none of the Democrat-Liberal-Progressive-Socialists have a good reply.

    • bjensen

      If that were the case, we’d have had these problems decades ago….

  • Paul Whitley

    Will someone please tell me what ” PTB” stands for?

    • bjensen

      In this case, pretty sure it’s “Powers That Be” but I guess it could be Pulmonary tuberculosis or Pass the buck…..LOL

  • bjensen

    Besides said Rubio “As a Senator, My Kids Already Have Armed Security”……

  • well, I guess your family teachers have been brainwashed to not like guns. I’d look carefully at their “education”

  • Kirk Chartier

    Luke 22:36 …and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment (cloak)and buy one. Firearms have replaced sword as all but ceremonial use and cloaks have been replaced by coats and blankets which is what they were used for. The cloak was a protected garment in O.T. Law it could not be taken from someone legally, and if given as a pledge it had to be returned before nightfall to the owner or serious legal ramifications set in.
    Israel had a school shooting and they trained and armed their teachers and since then I don’t know of any other major incidents.
    If trained they should know to stop the threat, and holster their weapon and contact the responding officers as soon as safe to do so. But responding officers have to give challenge and NOT JUST SHOOT SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY SEE A GUN IN THEIR HAND.
    If you can’t trust the teachers to be armed, then why are you trusting them to teach your children.

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